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It could be one of the darkest and most sinister secrets in the entire field of UFO investigation.

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There was an underground base here in the Mesa.

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Human and alien genetic experimentation.

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Booms emerged in sort of yellow liquid.

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These experiments are reportedly going on in Dulce, New Mexico, deep below the desert,

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brushed in a secret underground base.

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Even reports of some kind of underground battle.

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62 to 72 bodies were pulled out of there.

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Are aliens being housed at an underground complex?

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They call level 6 Nightmare Hall.

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Or is this just a cover for a top secret military operation?

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And if so, why?

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They left a fetus inside the animal.

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My God.

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This is case number 66105, Underground Paces.

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The Mesa

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There is a whole theory about secret underground bases, especially the big base in Dulce, New Mexico.

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Allegedly, there is a vent coming out of a hill.

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Why would a vent be coming out of a hill?

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The only explanation would be some sort of facility in the mountains.

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If there is a base here, there's going to be a massive infrastructure.

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There's going to be a ventilation system, a water management system, a power system.

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If this is a government facility, I'm sure they can hide a lot of it, but some of it's going to be apparent.

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Kevin's right.

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I mean, an underground base would need power.

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There would probably be vents on the surface, but maybe not.

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If they designed something ultra top secret, most of the base would be underground.

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I know for a fact that we have underground military bases that were built to protect and house the government and military in the event of a nuclear attack.

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But whether or not aliens are involved in Dulce, that never means to be seen.

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We don't even know that there is actually a base here.

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That's as simple as it gets, and that's where personally I want to start.

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Okay.

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If I see something that leads me to believe that there is a base there, then I'll think about what's going on in the base and who's running it.

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When you hear the stories, when you're on the Indian reservation and see what there is to see,

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when you do that, I think your minds will be open to the possibility that something incredible and possibly very sinister is going on there.

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We're in Dulce, New Mexico, about 200 miles away from Albuquerque.

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Our goal is to locate a secret underground base where the government reportedly has been housing aliens and carrying out strange experiments.

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My name's Ken Storich, and there is definitely something strange going on in Dulce, New Mexico.

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My name is Bob.

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I'm an undercover operative.

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And Dulce is the ultimate undercover operation.

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We're here in Dulce meeting with Bob and Ken, investigators that have been looking into this area for over 10 years now.

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These guys have made Dulce the central focus of their investigations because they believe something really strange is going on here.

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What got you into the Dulce business?

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When we first learned about the Dulce papers from this retired Air Force colonel,

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we were told that there was an underground base here in the Mesa.

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The Dulce papers surfaced in the 1980s and they documented the levels of experimentation going on at that secret base.

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They also talked about a fight.

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In 79, the Greys took over our scientists.

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Delta, FBI, CIA, the security forces in the mountain itself.

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They went down to get the scientists and a firefight occurred from 62 to 72.

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Bodies were pulled out of there.

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Our very first trip down here, we were contacted by a Hickory police officer.

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We went on to the reservation.

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Out of my peripheral vision, I see the squad car pull up.

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He said to me, what are you looking at?

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I said, the Archuleta.

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And I just bluntly looked at him and said, were you here in 79 when they dragged the bodies out of the Archuleta?

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He looked me dead in the face and said, yes, but we're not allowed to talk about it.

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Whoa.

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This is bizarre.

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We have an officer admitting to seeing bodies removed from this supposed firefight, but he's forbidden to talk about it.

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So there might be something to this, but still, it's second hand and it's just a story.

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What role does Archuleta Mesa play in all this?

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The only thing that we can think of is that it's in a remote area and it's only accessible from certain points.

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There's a section up there, 30 yards wide, two or three hundred yards long, where the tops of the trees are clipped off.

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They're all laying in one direction.

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The first story that we got was that it was a flying saucer from Area 51 that was back engineered.

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They were flying it and they got into trouble and tried to do an emergency landing on the Mesa and crashed.

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And that's what started the fire.

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Second version was that it was an F-16 that crashed and that came from an Air Force major.

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But I can't find anything about the crash, what caused the crash, who the pilot was, what happened to the pilot or anything.

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All of a sudden you get steered in this direction, you get an answer, question answered, and then all of a sudden it steers you in another direction, you hit a brick wall.

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The worst thing that a detective or an investigator can do is take the evidence and lead it.

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What you have to do is you have to follow the trail and you have to keep an open mind and you have to be objective when you go down that path.

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Ken and Bob are giving me some clues that point that something is going on, but there's nothing definitive yet that tells me that there really is an underground base here.

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I want to get closer to Archuleta Mesa, get a closer look, and maybe I'll be able to make a little more sense about what's happening in Dulce.

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My name is Troy Vicente and I honestly believe that there is a UFO base within Archuleta Mesa.

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Kevin and I have come to the base of Archuleta Mesa to see if there's anything going on here.

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We're meeting with a local Troy Vicente to see if he knows anything about this place and has experienced any UFO sightings for himself.

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From the front gate, as you're coming in, my wife saw this big old flying crab that was hovering and it's a very big crab, probably about three or four football lengths wide.

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Was it round?

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Yes, round.

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As we stood there, all I could see was the disc, the bottom of the disc because of the flash of the Dulce lights shining against it.

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There is a reflection from the lights in town on the bottom of this crab.

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Yes, there is.

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I thought it was going to hit that Mesa, but it seemed like it was barely great that Mesa there.

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Crab flew into the Mesa or over the Mesa?

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Above, on top of it.

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Do you think it's that it's possible that maybe this UFO that you saw maybe had originated from Archuleta Mesa?

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We already know that there's a UFO base here.

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It's common knowledge that there's a UFO base here in Dulce?

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Yes.

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It's amazing that they just accept a UFO base being here. This is a good sign for starting off our investigation.

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I'm off to Las Vegas to talk to John Leo about the mysteries of the Dulce papers and their ultimate origin.

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Can you just start us off and tell us how this whole story began?

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I met Ann West. She told me that she knew a security officer there. His name was Thomas Costello.

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Supposedly he escaped with seven minutes of videotape, 25 black and white photos, and about 100 pages of information on what was going on there.

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He contacted Ann, who was a long time friend of his, and said,

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What I want you to do is bury this information. I'll contact you every four months.

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If I miss two meetings in a row, then I want you to take that information and expose what's going on there.

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When she was shown the photos before he put it in the box, he asked her to make some drawings.

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And these are the original pencil drawings that she made.

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What is there at Dulce from these drawings?

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It's underground, it has seven levels. There's all kinds of experiments going on.

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Wounds submerged in sort of yellow liquid looks thicker than water.

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Dozens of creatures in each womb can't count the tanks. Three fingers, two toes, not human.

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All we do know, or at least believe from the photographs, is that there's experimentation with human beings.

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Correct.

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There are aliens who are living at Dulce.

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Correct.

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And we are working with the aliens at Dulce.

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Correct.

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I'm going to go back to Dulce now with an encyclopedic amount of information.

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It's the history of Dulce, the origins of Dulce, who's in charge of Dulce.

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John Lear said that he's the guy who got all the information from a guard who worked right there at the Dulce base.

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Inside the boxes that supposedly this guy, Thomas Castello, left were photographs.

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What I'm going to show you are some of the sketches he made from the photographs.

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Looks like large pieces of pale meat and cloudy water.

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Submerged, not floating.

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Bill, are you serious about this?

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Pat, that's what he said. A humanoid embryo growing inside a flask.

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So I'm wondering, are these any sort of proof that this underground base is real, or is it a hint that the whole thing is just made up?

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So you're saying that in this Archuleta, right here, Archuleta Mesa, all this sinister stuff is going on?

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Yes.

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We're going to meet with John Rhodes, who's the repository of all information about what the Dulce base is, what's going on there, what they're doing, and who's in charge.

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The base is underneath Archuleta Mesa.

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Supposedly it consists of seven levels, each level increasing in security as you go lower and lower.

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The information that was provided to us by Thomas Castello gave us very complex floor plans that had been drawn out.

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Here we're looking at the first level of Dulce.

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The central hub here is security, which extends all the way down.

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It's the hub of these concentric ring circles.

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Each area is connected by corridors and passageways.

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Level two, they strip you down and take all your personal clothing.

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They weigh your body.

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They take biometric scans of you and everything.

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So in case you're trying to smuggle something out, they know exactly what you ate.

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They know exactly how much you should weigh.

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They know if you have something in your stomach.

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They're really taking it to extremes.

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Well, you would have to with something like this.

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They're frightened that it would be discovered that humans were being experimented on for genetic research.

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Level three, we have the computer bank area.

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This is where they contain all command, control, communications, and intelligence.

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Level three doesn't sound very dark. When does it all start?

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Well, it starts getting more interesting at level four.

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Here's where they get some of the more exotic research.

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They've studied the human aura, all aspects of telepathy, hypnosis, dreams.

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Guys, wait, hang on a second.

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Are you talking about extraterrestrial visitors that are working with our government?

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Both.

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John Rhodes talks about the government working with aliens doing these weird experiments.

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This is where I have to draw the line.

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They call level six Nightmare Hall.

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You have aliens experimenting on humans, humans experimenting on aliens.

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They feel that you can sacrifice the one for the many.

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There's nobody safe.

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A little ways above Ducie Rock, something touched me in the back with a big hat and eyes.

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Listen to those people.

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We're speaking to John Rhodes, who's describing the different types of experiments going on on the different levels at Dulce.

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And he's confirming exactly what Thomas Costello said, that on level six and seven,

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that's where some of the darkest experimentation is going on.

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They call level six Nightmare Hall.

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This is where all the genetic experimentation is occurring, where they fuse animals and humans together.

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John Lear showed me his drawings of the Costello photographs,

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in which there were body parts in vats of warped human beings in cages.

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Absolutely.

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That's even real though.

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I saw the pictures, Pat, with my own eyes.

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Everybody wraps your sketches.

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Everybody saw about two or three years ago a mouse with a human ear growing out of its back.

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Do you remember seeing that?

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I saw that.

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Remember, the military industrial corporate complex is actually about 30 to 40 years ahead of us.

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So that means that at the time when these came out, chances are they were successfully fusing humans and other animals together

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as a precursor to what we're seeing now.

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Growing a human ear on a mouse could have some medical benefit,

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but that is so much different from aliens performing genetic experiments on humans.

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The human test subjects are housed in level five, they're taken in, the experiments are done on level six,

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then they're transported to level seven.

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This is the horrific area.

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Guards like Thomas said that they had the cages.

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They were told not to talk to anybody.

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These were half men, half other animals.

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Who's doing these experiments?

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Reptilian humanoid beings, the small grays.

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You're saying there are terrestrial reptilians down there, and there are gray aliens down there,

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and there are humans who are willingly helping to perform experiments on other humans down there.

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Why are you so shh?

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That is a nightmare.

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Why are you so shocked at humans performing other experiments on humans?

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I'm trying to separate fantasy from reality here.

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When you absorb all of the dolcy information, you have to ask yourself,

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do you dare risk doing research on mice where if you could use a human being,

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you could advance your research by 30 years.

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I just want to think about right now, is there a base? Is it possible?

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Back in June 11th, 1972 in the LA Times, the lead physicist for the Rand Corporation,

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he said that in 1972 the government had the technology to excavate tunnels across the United States

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and put maglev trains in there that were capable of doing 10 to 14,000 miles an hour.

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Now this is not science fiction, we have the capability to do it.

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These are US patents by Los Alamos National Laboratories talking about

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thermonuclear boring machines that melt through rock just like you're taking knife through butter.

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People keep thinking rock is hard, you have to break it down.

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That's what we've been misled to believe when it comes to tunneling.

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There are millions of patents and very, very few of them actually make it to production.

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A lot of them don't even work.

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Is there anything that actually says these are real thermonuclear boring machines?

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I went to Bechtel in Las Vegas, Nevada and put in Subterranean,

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which is what they called one of these, a subterranean into their computer system.

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These are images of the subterranean being tested up at Los Alamos scientific laboratories.

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The actual boring tips get superheated and they melt through solid rock.

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There's no excavation of materials that are needed.

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The rock penetrates, cracks and presses liquid molten glass up through a lining all the way around it.

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In the early 1970s there are plans for a network of underground tube shuttles.

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There are tube shuttles systems leading out of the base.

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So we have these tunnels under the United States now.

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You're saying this is a reality?

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Absolutely.

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In order for me to even get close to believing this, I need more video, I need testimony,

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I need photographs, I need some physical evidence that any of this is going on.

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These revelations from John Rhodes are certainly explosive, in fact they're monumental.

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But as an investigator I have to entertain other possibilities.

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I have to look at what else could be happening at the Delci base.

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So we will meet with Norio Hayakawa, a researcher who will give us some alternate theories

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about what might be going on at the Delci base.

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In 1990 I brought a Japanese television crew right here in Delci.

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We wanted to know what was going on.

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And strangely enough we were arrested and detained actually by the police chief.

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We asked them why we were detained and he didn't want to tell us anything.

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We asked him about the Delci base and he said he didn't want to talk about it.

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So he didn't confirm or deny?

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He didn't confirm or deny.

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That smacks to me of some kind of a cover-up.

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What were they trying to hide?

243
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How long have these stories about Delci been going on?

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Well this whole Delci rumor started in the mid-70s when cattle mutilation started taking place in this area

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and then later on rumors started circulating around that there is an alien base.

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So do you think that's part of the cover-up?

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What's in the base?

248
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There's something going on in Delci.

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The sightings and cattle mutilation are facts.

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We're on our way for a meeting with Gabe Valdez, a retired New Mexico state police officer.

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Gabe investigated cattle mutilation 20 years ago

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in which cattle seemingly healthy are killed

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and then the soft tissue is excised from the body.

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We hope he'll share whatever he learned with us.

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In my profession you have to focus on physical evidence

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and the physical evidence that we found doesn't come from outer space.

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Can you tell us what you found?

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Gas masks, monitoring instruments, radar shafts and helicopter activity.

259
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Finally, something tangible and from a New Mexico state trooper no less.

260
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This is a story from Delci that I can get behind.

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What I found out they were coming and marking the cattle ahead of time

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and then later on they hit him with a tranquilizer and then they take the lymph nodes out of it.

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The lymph nodes were consistent from each mutilation case.

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Each one.

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Then they would take more stuff out to kind of confuse people.

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What about this argument that it's just coyotes or ants

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or some wild animal that's killing the cattle?

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Coyotes don't wear gas masks.

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They're doing testing on cattle and it's very apparent because he's found evidence.

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He has tangible things such as a gas mask, glow sticks, some sort of devices.

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It points to humans, not aliens.

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Were your people able to ever figure out what this research is about?

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We suspect that it's not the schools' fault.

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It's not the extraterrestrials, Gabe said.

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It's us.

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But who?

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The government?

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The military?

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Some unknown shadow government organization?

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Gabe wouldn't tell us.

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Who would be keeping this a secret?

282
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Well, because of the consequences.

283
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Gabe said the consequences would be too dangerous.

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We're taking pictures of a lot of helicopter activity in the area.

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We've just taken ten days.

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I think that if there was some kind of secretive organization operating here,

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they wouldn't have a huge emblem or logo on the side of their helicopter.

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The aliens are so advanced in technology.

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Why do they leave all these physical evidence behind?

290
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We have alternate opinions now on whether they're UFOs and extraterrestrials

291
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or whether the craft, the unknown lights people are seeing,

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are really unconventional aircraft that we're using.

293
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We have to get more evidence.

294
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We could tell where the aircraft came to.

295
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They didn't do the whole process.

296
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This is what we found inside the fetuses of the mutilated cow.

297
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But it was not a cow fetus. Some part of it was, and the other wasn't.

298
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What are we looking at here? Is this a head?

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The cow where it was mutilated, the whole inside is gone, cleaned out.

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Gabe Valdez is giving us a whole new approach to the cattle mutilation he investigated.

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His investigation told him these were not extraterrestrials at all.

302
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We actually saw military helicopters over these mutilation sites.

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During your years of investigating cattle mutilations,

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what is the most anomalous evidence you came across?

305
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Well, they mutilated this animal about 40 miles east of here,

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and we could tell where the aircraft came to.

307
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They didn't do the whole process, and they left fetus inside the animal.

308
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A fetus? A cow fetus?

309
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No, it looked like a human, a monkey, and a frog.

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It didn't have any bones in the head. It was all full of water.

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What was the size of this fetus?

312
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Probably about 32 inches long, but something went wrong with whatever they were doing.

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What you're implying is that that cow was being used as an incubation chamber for a cloned creature.

314
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Except...

315
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My God.

316
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What are we looking at here? Is this a head?

317
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That's the front party's the head.

318
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This is bizarre.

319
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And was this open when you found it?

320
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Yeah, it was open.

321
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These are amazing photographs, and it's incredible that this kind of evidence was even left behind,

322
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but I'm still not convinced that this is the result of some sort of exotic testing going on at an underground base here in Dulcy.

323
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And are these the eyes?

324
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Yes.

325
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We really had to retrieve them back in order to see them.

326
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So there are eyes underneath that first skin going up.

327
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Look at the ear.

328
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That's an ear?

329
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Yeah, that's the ear. It's an ear of the human.

330
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What happened with the fetus?

331
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We took it and had it analyzed.

332
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It was very confusing to the veterinarians.

333
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Did the vet identify anything as human in that fetus?

334
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Yeah, I think he could tell the eyes were...

335
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Honestly, this just looks like some crazy genetic experiment going completely wrong.

336
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Yes.

337
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Right.

338
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It's madness. This is madness.

339
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I mean, I wouldn't say that.

340
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They're a cow's born with eight legs and two faces.

341
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I mean, this could just be some sort of birth defect.

342
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But they're a cow's path.

343
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They have hooves. They have cods.

344
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I would say acute deformity.

345
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Where do you have a human-shaped head on a cow?

346
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Well, the fetus photos were horrifying.

347
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This was definitely some kind of a monstrosity.

348
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I can't say for a fact whether this is the result of some kind of genetic hybrid experiment

349
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or merely a genetic mutation, maybe even just a birth defect.

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What Gabe is telling us says that there's a lot going on here

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that would require some sort of facility to operate out of.

352
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If that's the case, Dulce, New Mexico is still a prime candidate for this underground base,

353
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and I still want to find it.

354
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There was a whole busload of kids that morning, and we all saw it.

355
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I remember little kids were screaming.

356
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The little girls were rushing to the head of the bus,

357
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and they were holding onto the cloak of the priest.

358
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I couldn't believe my eyes.

359
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I was looking at a flying disk.

360
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My name is Darren Vigil Gray, and I've seen a UFO come from the area of Archuleta Mesa.

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We're here at the base of Archuleta Mesa to meet with archaeologist Garth Baldwin

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to discuss the geological makeup of the Mesa

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and see if it's even possible that an underground base could be built here.

364
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Garth, we're here at the base of the Archuleta Mesa,

365
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inside of which there's a pewter to be a top secret base for genetic engineering.

366
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I guess the question for all of us is,

367
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what kind of engineering would it take to have created such a base inside the earth?

368
00:26:04,923 --> 00:26:08,925
Can you tell us about the rock formations and what kind of rock we're dealing with?

369
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Up on the mountain where you do find soil, it's between one foot and less,

370
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and then it's just bedrock.

371
00:26:15,927 --> 00:26:19,929
The upper strata up there that you can see exposed is a kilometer of a salt.

372
00:26:19,929 --> 00:26:22,930
That's much too fragmentary for any kind of drilling or anything else.

373
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It makes great fence posts, but it wouldn't necessarily support being ground out inside.

374
00:26:27,932 --> 00:26:30,933
But below that, there's layers of basalt that are more structurally sound.

375
00:26:30,933 --> 00:26:33,935
There's also sandstones below that.

376
00:26:33,935 --> 00:26:37,936
It sounds like top layer, very, very difficult to drill through.

377
00:26:37,936 --> 00:26:40,937
They'd have to start at the bottom of the Mesa, or near the bottom of the Mesa,

378
00:26:40,937 --> 00:26:43,939
where there's a stable strata of rock that they could get into.

379
00:26:43,939 --> 00:26:47,940
Let's just say you were hired by the government to design an underground base.

380
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:51,942
Would there be any reason for you to pick Archilla de Mesa?

381
00:26:51,942 --> 00:26:58,945
It's a Mesa, so you've got a starting point where you know where the stratigraphic layers of rock are,

382
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so you've got a structure to begin with.

383
00:27:00,945 --> 00:27:04,947
According to the specifications that we've been given for this base,

384
00:27:04,947 --> 00:27:07,948
How much of a diameter does this have right here?

385
00:27:07,948 --> 00:27:09,949
The base can extend up to 4.87 miles.

386
00:27:09,949 --> 00:27:12,950
4.8 miles, is that correct?

387
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:13,951
4.8 miles diameter.

388
00:27:13,951 --> 00:27:15,951
That's the diameter of the base.

389
00:27:15,951 --> 00:27:17,952
We thought that the base had about the size of the Mesa.

390
00:27:17,952 --> 00:27:20,953
That would fit within the structure that you're talking about.

391
00:27:20,953 --> 00:27:26,956
Garth is telling us that Archilla de Mesa actually has the size to house something of this magnitude.

392
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And while I don't necessarily believe yet that there is a base inside the Mesa,

393
00:27:30,957 --> 00:27:33,959
it's good to know that the possibility of it being there is real.

394
00:27:33,959 --> 00:27:36,960
It's conceivable that they're coming in through tunnels

395
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and actually drilling out the space for this underground base from the bottom up.

396
00:27:41,962 --> 00:27:44,963
If that technology were true, then that would be possible.

397
00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:51,966
The human species has such a knowledge of mining and structural engineering

398
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that I'm not surprised by anything that our engineers can do.

399
00:27:55,967 --> 00:27:59,969
I'm really happy to hear Garth's feedback about the makeup of the Mesa.

400
00:27:59,969 --> 00:28:04,971
And it does seem like he thinks it is possible to have an underground base there,

401
00:28:04,971 --> 00:28:07,972
even given the massive size of this thing.

402
00:28:09,973 --> 00:28:12,974
Garth said he didn't know what kind of technology we had

403
00:28:12,974 --> 00:28:15,975
with this kind of drilling in an expeditious way,

404
00:28:15,975 --> 00:28:19,977
but John Rhodes showed us that technology exists today.

405
00:28:19,977 --> 00:28:25,979
Therefore, it's quite possible we are standing in the shadow of the Dulce base.

406
00:28:34,983 --> 00:28:37,984
I really want to find a vent. That's really what I want to find.

407
00:28:39,985 --> 00:28:41,986
I'm going to have to get a better look at that.

408
00:28:43,986 --> 00:28:48,988
It's a 14-mile underground tunnel that goes under that mountain there.

409
00:28:48,988 --> 00:28:49,989
Yes.

410
00:28:56,992 --> 00:29:00,993
Something had come over the car. Some object.

411
00:29:00,993 --> 00:29:02,994
Three red lights in a triangular shape.

412
00:29:02,994 --> 00:29:08,996
I'm JRTQ and I've seen an identified flying object here in the Hickor Apache Reservation.

413
00:29:13,998 --> 00:29:15,999
So as we've conducted our investigation here in Dulce,

414
00:29:15,999 --> 00:29:20,001
we've heard a lot of interesting stories, but we're still left with a question mark.

415
00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:25,003
And naturally, that leads our investigation to one place, Archuleta Mesa itself.

416
00:29:25,003 --> 00:29:30,005
It's treacherous and it's dangerous, so for safety reasons, just Pat and I are going to go there.

417
00:29:30,005 --> 00:29:32,006
And we're going to see what we can discover.

418
00:29:33,006 --> 00:29:37,008
Given the vastness of the area, it would be a little bit silly for us to go it alone up here.

419
00:29:37,008 --> 00:29:40,009
So we brought Richard along because he's an experienced guide.

420
00:29:40,009 --> 00:29:42,010
He's been up here before. He's familiar with the area.

421
00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:48,012
And he's seen a vent or some kind of hole in the mountain before, so we're trying to find that now.

422
00:30:00,017 --> 00:30:05,019
The cat ride up was no luxury tour. It was a rough ride, a lot of bumps.

423
00:30:05,019 --> 00:30:08,020
The trail alternated between snow and gravel.

424
00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:11,021
I think Kevin looked a little bit green on the way up.

425
00:30:19,024 --> 00:30:23,026
The snow cat has just dropped us off at the top of Archuleta Mesa.

426
00:30:23,026 --> 00:30:29,028
We're finally here, over 9,500 feet, overlooking the entire Hickoria Apache Reservation.

427
00:30:29,028 --> 00:30:35,031
The view is spectacular and I can't help but think that if there's any truth to this story,

428
00:30:35,031 --> 00:30:39,032
that there is an underground base here, we couldn't be any closer to it.

429
00:30:41,033 --> 00:30:46,035
I've been waiting a long time for this to get actually to the top of Archuleta Mesa.

430
00:30:46,035 --> 00:30:51,037
And if there is an underground base here, then this is where we're going to find it.

431
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,041
So Richard, we're finally here at the edge of Archuleta Mesa.

432
00:31:02,041 --> 00:31:06,043
Supposedly we're so much of the activities going on. Here are our guide here.

433
00:31:06,043 --> 00:31:08,044
What do you know about what's going on around here?

434
00:31:08,044 --> 00:31:12,045
There's a lot of things out here that we see flying down the sky.

435
00:31:12,045 --> 00:31:16,047
I'd rather keep them to myself. There's a lot of people around here that's the same thing.

436
00:31:16,047 --> 00:31:20,049
If you leave the reservation with these stories, people don't believe you.

437
00:31:20,049 --> 00:31:21,049
They think I'm nuts.

438
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:23,050
What have you seen up here?

439
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:28,052
Me and one of my cousins, we were walking the edge. We spotted a hole on this thing.

440
00:31:28,052 --> 00:31:29,052
A hole?

441
00:31:29,052 --> 00:31:33,054
Now I hear things that it's a van or things like that.

442
00:31:33,054 --> 00:31:39,056
It seems like Richard is hesitant to tell his story or his experiences. I'm not sure why.

443
00:31:39,056 --> 00:31:43,058
But then he goes on to tell me about a hole or a vent that he discovered.

444
00:31:43,058 --> 00:31:48,060
Now he's not sure what it is, but I think that maybe this could be some evidence

445
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:51,061
to show us that there is something underneath Archuleta Mesa.

446
00:31:51,061 --> 00:31:58,064
Before coming up here, so many people have wondered what these mystery towers were.

447
00:31:58,064 --> 00:32:03,066
Some towers are transporters for TVs and things like that.

448
00:32:03,066 --> 00:32:09,068
From down the ground, they look like something special out of place, out of the ordinary.

449
00:32:09,068 --> 00:32:12,069
But from right here, it just makes sense.

450
00:32:12,069 --> 00:32:17,071
I really want to find a vent. That's really what I want to find.

451
00:32:17,071 --> 00:32:22,073
I'm going to pull out the infrared camera and see if there are any unusual heat signatures in the area.

452
00:32:22,073 --> 00:32:28,076
The FLIR camera is measuring the difference in heat and is primarily used by law enforcement to hunt suspects at night.

453
00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:32,077
Now what we're going to do is look for anomalies in the ground.

454
00:32:32,077 --> 00:32:35,078
If there is an air vent, if there's hot air coming out,

455
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:38,080
it's going to be at a different temperature than the surface of the Mesa itself.

456
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,080
And we're going to find it.

457
00:32:47,083 --> 00:32:53,086
I don't expect any kind of sign that says welcome to the underground base or any armed guards or anything like that.

458
00:32:53,086 --> 00:33:00,088
What I'm hoping for is just some signs of human activity that's just kind of out of place.

459
00:33:02,089 --> 00:33:04,090
That looks a little interesting.

460
00:33:11,093 --> 00:33:14,094
I did see something interesting just down below.

461
00:33:14,094 --> 00:33:19,096
There was a mound of snow and there was an outcropping of rock just on the southern face of it.

462
00:33:19,096 --> 00:33:23,098
And it had an interesting marking on it. It's all with the binoculars.

463
00:33:26,099 --> 00:33:30,100
When I took the infrared camera to it, it looked completely normal.

464
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:35,102
While Kevin scanned the Mesa with the FLIR camera, I pressed Richard a bit more about what he knew about the area.

465
00:33:35,102 --> 00:33:39,104
He began telling me about a tunnel system that he knew existed around here.

466
00:33:40,104 --> 00:33:44,106
We've got one that's over here on the east side from us.

467
00:33:44,106 --> 00:33:47,107
It's just a split of this water down here.

468
00:33:47,107 --> 00:33:54,110
It goes down about 14 miles into that mountain you see over there.

469
00:33:57,111 --> 00:34:02,113
He did tell me that there are underground tunnels to the south of the Mesa.

470
00:34:02,113 --> 00:34:06,115
It's a 14-mile underground tunnel that goes under that mountain there.

471
00:34:06,115 --> 00:34:08,116
And everybody knows about this?

472
00:34:08,116 --> 00:34:09,116
Yeah.

473
00:34:09,116 --> 00:34:12,117
And then I asked him if there were any other tunnels that he was familiar with.

474
00:34:12,117 --> 00:34:14,118
He said that there were holes that he couldn't take us to.

475
00:34:14,118 --> 00:34:16,119
Are there any other tunnels that you know about?

476
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,120
Yeah, I've seen two holes on this side.

477
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,121
There are more tunnels than we know about.

478
00:34:21,121 --> 00:34:24,122
Is there any way you could take us to the holes?

479
00:34:24,122 --> 00:34:25,122
No.

480
00:34:25,122 --> 00:34:26,123
I could have gone there.

481
00:34:26,123 --> 00:34:30,124
When I pressed him further, he got a little uncomfortable and he just said that's not his way.

482
00:34:30,124 --> 00:34:31,125
I didn't say holes.

483
00:34:31,125 --> 00:34:34,126
Yeah, I know where it's at, but I don't want to go there.

484
00:34:34,126 --> 00:34:38,127
Okay, it's important to remember that when you come to the Hickory Apache Nation,

485
00:34:38,127 --> 00:34:42,129
that you're really coming into another country and they do have their own way.

486
00:34:42,129 --> 00:34:47,131
It seems like there's a secret in the family that they're not comfortable talking about,

487
00:34:47,131 --> 00:34:49,132
that they don't want to disclose,

488
00:34:49,132 --> 00:34:52,133
and that's kind of the feeling I'm getting from hanging out with Richard up here.

489
00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:54,134
Kevin, how are you doing with the fleer over there?

490
00:34:55,134 --> 00:34:58,135
To tell you the truth, I'm not finding anything unusual.

491
00:34:58,135 --> 00:35:02,137
There are some hot spots, but they're all on the sunny side of a rock,

492
00:35:02,137 --> 00:35:06,139
on the other side of a tree, coming to around 70 degrees.

493
00:35:06,139 --> 00:35:10,140
After talking with all the people who live here, around the base of the mesa,

494
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,141
and even Richard, our guide, who has taken us up here,

495
00:35:12,141 --> 00:35:14,142
every one of them has a UFO story.

496
00:35:14,142 --> 00:35:19,144
If reality is a consensus of people agreeing on seeing something,

497
00:35:19,144 --> 00:35:24,146
then we have to start paying attention to the reality of the Hickory Apache,

498
00:35:24,146 --> 00:35:29,148
that they are seeing UFOs, and this does appear to be some kind of UFO area.

499
00:35:29,148 --> 00:35:33,149
Pat and Kevin have seen some incredible things at Delcy.

500
00:35:33,149 --> 00:35:37,151
We've heard amazing stories, we've listened to eyewitness testimony,

501
00:35:37,151 --> 00:35:40,152
and we've seen incredible evidence.

502
00:35:41,153 --> 00:35:45,154
But after everything they've seen and heard, they're still on the fence.

503
00:35:46,155 --> 00:35:50,156
There's still one more place I want to take Pat and Kevin,

504
00:35:50,156 --> 00:35:52,157
which may help bring them around.

505
00:35:53,157 --> 00:35:59,160
I really find it hard to believe that there's a secret bunker hidden somewhere here.

506
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:07,163
Best way to keep a secret? Hide it in plain sight.

507
00:36:13,165 --> 00:36:18,167
Although we've seen some mind-boggling things at the Dulce base in New Mexico,

508
00:36:18,167 --> 00:36:22,169
if there's any doubt about whether a base such as Dulce could exist,

509
00:36:22,169 --> 00:36:25,170
we'll hear it White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia,

510
00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:29,172
the home of one of our government's best kept secrets.

511
00:36:33,173 --> 00:36:40,176
We're here at the Greenbrier, and the Greenbrier was a beautiful hotel built in 1913,

512
00:36:40,176 --> 00:36:47,179
but underneath the Greenbrier and set into the hill is the Hickory Apache.

513
00:36:48,179 --> 00:36:52,181
The congressional facility for maintaining continuity of government

514
00:36:52,181 --> 00:36:54,182
in the event of a nuclear war.

515
00:37:01,184 --> 00:37:06,186
We're about to meet Linda Walls, who is going to take us through this facility

516
00:37:06,186 --> 00:37:12,189
and point out all the features that make this facility so important to us.

517
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:17,191
This hotel, this property has a tremendous history.

518
00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:24,194
We date the resort to 1778, 6,500 acres, 721 guest rooms.

519
00:37:24,194 --> 00:37:28,195
Just standing here looking around, I really find it hard to believe

520
00:37:28,195 --> 00:37:31,196
that there's a secret bunker hidden somewhere here.

521
00:37:31,196 --> 00:37:32,197
Believe it.

522
00:37:35,198 --> 00:37:37,199
When was it actually built?

523
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:41,200
The construction was between 1958 and 1961,

524
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,202
and on top of the bunker is the West Virginia Wing.

525
00:37:45,202 --> 00:37:47,203
About how big is the bunker?

526
00:37:47,203 --> 00:37:51,204
112,544 square feet.

527
00:37:51,204 --> 00:37:55,206
Best way to keep a secret? Hide it in plain sight.

528
00:38:07,211 --> 00:38:14,214
Behind this, you're going to be amazed at what you'll see.

529
00:38:14,214 --> 00:38:17,215
You mean you're not talking about these doors right here?

530
00:38:17,215 --> 00:38:19,216
So how do you open it?

531
00:38:19,216 --> 00:38:22,217
Well, if you could just help. Thanks Pat.

532
00:38:22,217 --> 00:38:23,217
Sure.

533
00:38:23,217 --> 00:38:24,218
Watch your fingers.

534
00:38:24,218 --> 00:38:25,218
Okay.

535
00:38:28,219 --> 00:38:33,221
Once you move the wall, you uncover an 18-ton vault door.

536
00:38:33,221 --> 00:38:37,223
One of three in the facility that closed off the underground structure

537
00:38:37,223 --> 00:38:39,223
from the outside world.

538
00:38:45,226 --> 00:38:49,227
Once the decision would have been made to seal the bunker,

539
00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:53,229
there would have been no way to get in from the outside.

540
00:38:53,229 --> 00:38:56,230
There was a 60-day supply of food.

541
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:59,231
There was a 42-day supply of diesel fuel.

542
00:39:00,232 --> 00:39:03,233
To have even known about this facility,

543
00:39:03,233 --> 00:39:07,235
you would have had to have had a top-secret government security clearance.

544
00:39:07,235 --> 00:39:11,236
However, every day, hotel guests here at Greenbrier

545
00:39:11,236 --> 00:39:16,238
walk through these camouflaged big vault doors into this conference center,

546
00:39:16,238 --> 00:39:21,240
and they never knew they were standing in a top-secret government facility.

547
00:39:23,241 --> 00:39:24,241
It's huge.

548
00:39:24,241 --> 00:39:27,243
It's over 16,000 square feet.

549
00:39:28,243 --> 00:39:30,244
Thousands of people have been in here,

550
00:39:30,244 --> 00:39:33,245
but they didn't know they were actually in a part of the bunker.

551
00:39:33,245 --> 00:39:36,246
This room was used for exhibits, medical exhibits,

552
00:39:36,246 --> 00:39:38,247
book exhibits, parties.

553
00:39:40,248 --> 00:39:43,249
When the time came that the government had to continue,

554
00:39:43,249 --> 00:39:44,249
what did this room become?

555
00:39:44,249 --> 00:39:47,251
The room would have been subdivided into 24 offices

556
00:39:47,251 --> 00:39:50,252
for the support staff of Congress.

557
00:39:58,255 --> 00:40:01,256
I mean, there are hospitals, dormitories.

558
00:40:01,256 --> 00:40:03,257
There's even a crematorium.

559
00:40:03,257 --> 00:40:06,258
There are places for families and aides to stay.

560
00:40:06,258 --> 00:40:09,259
How is it possible that this place was kept a secret

561
00:40:09,259 --> 00:40:12,261
without the hotel employees and people of the town knowing about it?

562
00:40:12,261 --> 00:40:16,262
I, like so many others, had heard for years that there was something here.

563
00:40:16,262 --> 00:40:19,263
So you were working here while the bunker was still a secret?

564
00:40:19,263 --> 00:40:20,264
Yes.

565
00:40:20,264 --> 00:40:23,265
Did you ever see somebody walking through the hotel

566
00:40:23,265 --> 00:40:25,266
suspicious looking character

567
00:40:25,266 --> 00:40:29,267
and think he must be on his way to the secret facilities?

568
00:40:29,267 --> 00:40:32,269
We did wonder about some of those television repairmen.

569
00:40:34,269 --> 00:40:36,270
So that was the cover.

570
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:39,271
All these people for television repair crews came in,

571
00:40:39,271 --> 00:40:42,272
and literally they were the ones working on this facility.

572
00:40:42,272 --> 00:40:47,274
Now we know they were spending 85% of their time on shelter management.

573
00:40:47,274 --> 00:40:50,276
This whole thing sounds like a page from a spy novel,

574
00:40:50,276 --> 00:40:54,277
and if the government can construct a facility of this size in plain sight

575
00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:57,278
and have it be completely covered up,

576
00:40:57,278 --> 00:41:01,280
I guess there's a possibility that in Dulce, New Mexico,

577
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,281
something similar on a much larger scale could happen,

578
00:41:04,281 --> 00:41:06,282
given it's in the middle of nowhere.

579
00:41:08,283 --> 00:41:12,284
When did you first learn, for real, what this was?

580
00:41:12,284 --> 00:41:15,286
The day the article appeared in the Washington Post magazine.

581
00:41:15,286 --> 00:41:17,286
Until the Washington Post broke the story,

582
00:41:17,286 --> 00:41:23,289
nobody knew that this hotel was a cover for an underground facility,

583
00:41:23,289 --> 00:41:28,291
literally a bunker to house the legislative branch of government in time of war.

584
00:41:28,291 --> 00:41:33,293
The last government truck left July 31, 1995.

585
00:41:33,293 --> 00:41:37,294
So that's three years it might have taken to actually build a facility to replace this.

586
00:41:37,294 --> 00:41:39,295
Unless there were other facilities.

587
00:41:39,295 --> 00:41:40,296
Already in existence.

588
00:41:40,296 --> 00:41:41,296
Exactly.

589
00:41:41,296 --> 00:41:45,298
When you visit a place like Greenbrier with this extensive facility,

590
00:41:45,298 --> 00:41:49,299
that was constructed under the very eyes of the people working here,

591
00:41:49,299 --> 00:41:53,301
it tells me that of course you could have a Dulce.

592
00:41:53,301 --> 00:41:58,303
Bill has a point that it's very incredible that this kind of facility can be built

593
00:41:58,303 --> 00:42:00,304
right in front of the public eye.

594
00:42:00,304 --> 00:42:04,305
We know that this underground facility is 112,000 square feet,

595
00:42:04,305 --> 00:42:07,306
and based on what we learned about the secret base in Dulce,

596
00:42:07,306 --> 00:42:08,307
and some calculations that I did,

597
00:42:08,307 --> 00:42:12,308
I actually learned that it could be over 3,000 times the size

598
00:42:12,308 --> 00:42:14,309
of a facility at Greenbrier.

599
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:16,310
We know that Greenbrier took three years to build,

600
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:20,312
so it could have taken ten years, decades to construct any kind of base at Dulce,

601
00:42:20,312 --> 00:42:24,313
and there's not even any evidence that it was ever built in the first place.

602
00:42:24,313 --> 00:42:29,315
The people who built Dulce could have built it for a variety of reasons,

603
00:42:29,315 --> 00:42:31,316
with a variety of cover stories,

604
00:42:31,316 --> 00:42:33,317
and where are they building it?

605
00:42:33,317 --> 00:42:34,317
On reservation land.

606
00:42:34,317 --> 00:42:36,318
Nobody's going to question that.

607
00:42:36,318 --> 00:42:39,319
And even if they did, they'd be told to shut up.

608
00:42:39,319 --> 00:42:43,321
I mean, homo sapiens, we're capable of incredible things.

609
00:42:43,321 --> 00:42:45,321
If we really put our mind to it,

610
00:42:45,321 --> 00:42:49,323
if engineers really wanted to build a base under Archuleta Mesa

611
00:42:49,323 --> 00:42:52,324
and keep it a secret, we have the technology to do that.

612
00:42:52,324 --> 00:42:53,325
It could be done.

613
00:42:56,326 --> 00:42:58,327
Here's what I believe.

614
00:42:58,327 --> 00:43:01,328
We've spoken to first-hand witnesses, eye witnesses,

615
00:43:01,328 --> 00:43:05,329
who've seen craft hovering over the Archuleta Mesa.

616
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:10,331
We've spoken to people who've talked about cattle mutilations,

617
00:43:10,331 --> 00:43:15,333
who've actually seen black helicopters hovering over the countryside.

618
00:43:16,334 --> 00:43:23,337
We've seen actual photos of the strangest kind of entity I've ever seen in my entire life,

619
00:43:23,337 --> 00:43:27,338
a fetus in the womb of a mutilated cow,

620
00:43:27,338 --> 00:43:30,339
but it's not a cow fetus.

621
00:43:30,339 --> 00:43:31,340
What is it?

622
00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:36,342
Is there some strange genetic experimentation going on in Archuleta?

623
00:43:36,342 --> 00:43:41,344
Is there interbreeding of species going on and incubation inside cows,

624
00:43:41,344 --> 00:43:44,345
which is why they're mutilating this cattle?

625
00:43:44,345 --> 00:43:51,348
If you don't believe that all this can go on under the very eyes of an entire population,

626
00:43:51,348 --> 00:43:54,349
we went to Greenbrier in West Virginia,

627
00:43:54,349 --> 00:43:58,351
a completely undisclosed, top-class animal.

628
00:43:58,351 --> 00:44:03,353
A completely undisclosed, top-secret, underground base

629
00:44:03,353 --> 00:44:09,355
constructed right before the very eyes of hundreds of hotel guests and workers.

630
00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:16,358
Greenbrier proves that underground secret bases are not just a possibility,

631
00:44:16,358 --> 00:44:20,359
but probably an absolute reality.